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I've been poking around Ancestry and found some documents about the real Andrew Haldane and Edward Jones which others may find interesting or useful. You can find the post about it here.

Documents include the census, military and burial records, and a few yearbook pages for Andy. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find as much about Eddie who is somewhat of a man of mystery.

Thank you [personal profile] muccamukk for reminding me to link this here!
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This is the 1957 memoir by the US Marine Crops machine gunner/scout Robert Leckie, who many of you will remember as "that fuck up with way too many sex scenes from The Pacific."

The memoir is one of the three tent poles the series is based on, and the one written closest to the war. As opposed to Burgin's book, which came out after the tv show went to air, Leckie's was started in 1951 and is meant as a work of creative non-fiction. That is, it's not just a war record, or setting the record straight (though apparently it started because he was grumpy with the musical South Pacific), but is meant to actually be a book people want to read, as written by a professional author, not a soldier with a helper-writer.

Having read a lot of the soldier/helper writer books that came out after the series (Winters x2, Guarnere/Heffron, Malarkey, and Burgin, plus Chester Nez), I will say that the professional author angle was a nice change. The prose in this is snappy, funny, full of life and character. It's very much what you'd expect from someone who did sports reporting in the 1950s. You get a lot more life and personality out of descriptions, and there's an actual narrative structure to the thing. That said, it also felt over studied in places, and I wondered if even during the events he was trying to find a way to put the war into words, and contextualise his experience through language. Some of it feels like he's worked on phrases so much they don't feel real any more, but like an image of what he thinks the feeling should be. And there were times I missed the more stripped down simple storytelling of a soldier as told to...

The book strictly covers the war, from Leckie signing up after Pearl Harbour to the Japanese surrender, including training, Guadalcanal, Melbourne, Cape Gloucester, Pavuvu, Paleliu, and various military hospitals along the way. No real names are used, and I enjoyed all the silly nick names he gave people. He is a lot more open and frank about the ups and downs of military life, the cruelties and the crimes, the stolen joys, the imperfections than a lot of the other authors. I vaguely feel like he and Burgin may have been in different wars.

On the whole, if you want a war memoir that's actually a pleasure to read on its own grounds, I'd pick this one of the bunch I've read so far, so long as you don't mind vaguely pretentious my classical allusions let me show them to you, etc.

In terms of successful adaptions, there are a couple things that I'm glad they changed from the book, and a couple things I wish they'd kept their hands off.

In terms of positive changes: I think keeping Leckie with his group of friends throughout, and making him get injured while trying to find help for Runner, worked really well. Having him stay a scout would have meant including a whole new set of people, and the show had too many people anyway, so simplifying Leckie's career was a good choice. I also liked that they gave him a few moments where he stands up against the casual cruelty of the other Marines. It's maybe a bit sanctimonious, but I think it helped show his more thoughtful and compassionate side, which comes through in his writing, but would be hard to show in the show without that. Adding the letters to Vera was also good, and the bits with Vera at the end.

I wish they hadn't given him the silly romance in Melbourne. In the book he was casually seeing a number of women, and all of them were a lot more interesting than the made up story we got on screen. I'm also kind of baffled why they decided he needed to lose his faith. Granted he was an irreligious type in actions by his own admission, but the whole speech to Sledge in the library and not praying at the end felt like an odd addition to someone who maintained his Catholicism throughout all the horrors of war, and never seems to have doubted it. It feels like a rather shallow story about religion: that all cynics must also be atheists.

I'm curious to watch the show again now that I've read this (and hopefully recognise Hoosier at least once), but I think overall it didn't really add a lot to my appreciation of Show!Leckie, who I'd rather liked from the get go, and probably still like mildly more than the guy presenting himself in the book.
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So I was poking through archive.org (aka the world's most fabulous time sink, please give them money), and found Special action report, Cape Gloucester Operation by 1st Marine Division. I haven't had too much time to look at it yet, but it seems to mostly cover training and planning in the ramp up to the actual mission, but is probably helpful to anyone writing fic set in Melbourne.

Flipping to the end, I found a table of officers dated 1 January 1944, which included in the section for 3rd Battalion, 5th Regiment:

Table of officers of Hq. Company, including: "Jones, Edward Allison, 2ndLt., Bn-1; BnPs10, *12Mar43"

Table of officers of "K" Company, including: "Haldane, Andrew Allison, Capt, CO. 20May42"
(The columns are: Name, Rank, Position, Date Left US, and the star/hash means they left the US as an enlisted man.)

First off, how are both their middle names Allison!? I'd heard that they were but assumed it was fake. Because OMG WHAT!?

Secondly, I'm dying to know what Bn-1; BnPs10 means. I'm going under the assumption that it's "We put you here until we find somewhere for you to be," but who knows.

Thirdly, I'm pretty sure the date for when Eddie left the US is a typo, not because it contradicts show canon, but because I'm not entirely sure how someone would get a battlefield commission without having been in a battle.
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I discovered earlier today that it was Sledge's birthday (and Basilone's, much to my shame), which merited some sort of celebration. In my discussion of said celebration with [personal profile] muccamukk I realized that it would probably make sense to provide a list of The Pacific boys' birthdays and heights, since a bunch of us already threw together the same lists for the men of Easy Company, which you can find here.

And lo, we have done so. Thank you Mucca for your help.

Here are all the TP boys' heights and birthdays for anyone who needs them:

The Pacific Boys' Birthdays )


The Pacific Boys' Heights )
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In the same vein of the timestamps I shared earlier, some folks expressed an interest in seeing what Sledge's book had to say about Ack Ack and Hillbilly. As such, as I have gone through and pulled all mentions of either man from within the prose of Sledge's book to share here. I didn't include footnotes because the information they included was pretty much already available on Wikipedia.

Be aware that, as the quotations come from the book, they likely contain spoilers.

Eugene Sledge on Captain Andrew Allison Haldane, a.k.a. “Ack Ack”, Company Commander of K/3/5 )

Eugene Sledge on 1st Lieutenant Edward A. Jones, a.k.a. “Hillbilly”, Leader of K/3/5’s Machine-Gun Platoon )
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Hey y'all! I know a few folks out there are interested in The Pacific exclusively from the Sledgefu perspective, so I threw together a guide to timestamps by episode for those who may find it useful.

I did my best to black block all spoilers*, but be aware that because there are a few things I felt it was worth warning for, you may encounter spoilers herein.

You can find the timestamp list behind this cut. )

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